County and wharf owner at war
Battle has continued for 11 years
By Kim Hackett
Published Friday, Feb. 15, 2008 at 4:30 a.m.
VENICE — With so many waterfront restaurants and public marinas converting to condominiums throughout Southwest Florida, John Konecnik's new 47-slip floating dock at Fisherman's Wharf would seem to be an amenity celebrated by Venice — a mooring area where visiting boaters could dock and spend money downtown.
But it has been sitting unused for a year beneath the Hatchett Creek Bridge because it is 18 feet longer than the dock Sarasota County approved several years ago.
Even though the county acknowledges that there is no adverse impact to the environment, public health or navigation in the Intracoastal Waterway, the County Commission on Wednesday rejected Konecnik's request to approve the dock.
The after-the-fact permit he sought would have allowed him to keep the dock as is.
For the dock to conform to county regulations, Konecnik, 70, would have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to cut it down to size. Instead, he said he is going to fight the county in court, leaving the dock to sit unused.
"It serves no navigational purpose" for the county to reject the permit, Konecnik said while giving a tour of the docks, next to his popular Marker 4 Oyster Bar, renovated two years ago.
Konecnik said the dock's engineering plans were approved by the city of Venice and are about 200 feet shorter than what the state and the Army Corps of Engineers approved in 2001. He faults a few minor engineering "clerical errors" for a slightly longer dock than the county had in mind.
The county staff report reviewed by the commissioners before Wednesday's vote noted no objections or problems with the dock since its completion a year ago.
The county's permit rejection is just the latest round in an 11-year, multifront battle between Konecnik, the city of Venice, the county and the state over what he can do with the land -- both above and below water -- that he owns at the city's northeastern gateway on prime Intracoastal waterfront.
It is a battle that brought former Gov. Jeb Bush into the fray several years ago, as he declared that Konecnik did indeed own nine acres of underwater land. In exchange for giving the state five acres of the underwater land, the state gave Konecnik permits to build a 686-foot dock on the underwater land he still owned.
"I thought we were good to go," Konecnik said, adding that Venice gave him a building permit as well. "No one told me we had to get county approval."
Even though the property and the dock are clearly in the city limits and would provide boat access to residents and visitors, city officials are staying out of the fray. Unlike other municipalities, since 1998 Venice has "outsourced" its harbor and dock management to the county, saying it lacked the expertise.
Venice is in the process of taking back control, however, and it could have weighed in on the issue Wednesday. It chose not to.
"Legally and technically, that's the domain of the county," said Venice zoning director Tom Slaughter.
It is a battle over personalities and wills as much as zoning and permit infractions. Konecnik admits as much. He has had a steady turnover of lawyers and engineers "that have not served him well," Slaughter said.
Konecnik has owned the property since 1988, when the popular Fisherman's Wharf restaurant was still operating on the site.
Konecnik cleared the site and came up with a plan to put two 12-story condos and a marina there.
He went back and forth over density and building height with the city of Venice, which ultimately shot down his plans. Konecnik was persistent and several times presented similar plans when the city made it clear that the buildings were too tall.
When he did not get his way, Konecnik threatened to raze the Marker 4 restaurant or bring back a big gambling boat that he once had there.
In 1997 Konecnik had brought a pink, 91-foot "Vegas-to-Venice" gambling boat to Venice against the objections of the city. The boat seated close to 300 passengers and would travel into international waters for a gambling "cruise to nowhere."
He was cited for "propeller dredging" in the marina, which got him into trouble with the state. It also prompted him to research his property lines. It turned out Konecnik owned nine acres below the water, extending beneath the Harbor Lights Mobile Home Park, a neighbor he frequently battled over restaurant noise and water rights.
Konecnik started billing Harbor Lights residents $168,000 each for their docks, adding fuel to the fire. He eventually relented and never pursued the fees.
Finally, after lengthy negotiations with Konecnik's lawyers and the state, Konecnik maintains he was guaranteed permits for the big dock as part of a June 2001 deal with the governor and Cabinet that acknowledged his ownership of 9.61 acres of underwater land.
As part of that deal, Konecnik agreed to give the state ownership of 5.25 acres of submerged land, including the land under the Harbor Lights docks and the West Coast Inland Navigation District boat dock. In exchange, the state guaranteed he would get all the permits he needed to build the dock.
When the county said no to the longer dock, in part because of protest by Harbor Lights residents, Konecnik went back to the drawing board but repeatedly came back with plans for a 686-foot dock. Both sides finally agreed to 415 feet. So it was no surprise that the commissioners were a little peeved when the dock turned out to be 433 feet.
He is pursuing a separate lawsuit against the county on that issue as well, claiming the county owes him $2.3 million for a legal "taking" of his property rights for reducing the size of the dock from the state-approved 686 feet.
"I'm getting too old for this," said Konecnik, who walks with a limp and a cane after recent hip surgery.
VENICE -- Fisherman's Wharf owner John Konecnik said the county's denial Tuesday of his dock construction plans will likely force him to close his popular waterfront restaurant.
The county commissioners voted 4-1 to deny a 676-foot dock that would create 75 boat slips, 17 of which would be open to the public.
Instead, the commissioners granted the wharf owner additional time to complete what they'd approved in the past, a 415-foot dock, with spaces for 67 boats.
The decision was a major setback for Konecnik, who has long threatened to build a high-rise condominium on his wharf property if the county refused his plans to build the longer dock.
Now, he said, he may close the Marker IV, which is one of the few waterfront restaurants left in the area.
"There's no sense in keeping Marker IV as a restaurant," Konecnik said. "We don't have any dockage for the restaurant people to come to."
But pressed for specifics on when the restaurant might close, Konecnik said no decision has been reached.
Konecnik and his attorneys couched his latest request as a small step toward reversing the trend of disappearing public dock space and amenities with access to the Gulf of Mexico.
But the commissioners said Konecnik's plan differed only slightly from the plans he presented in 2002, which they denied. In July 2004, Konecnik again sought permission but won approval for only the 415 feet, a compromise commissioners approved in the face of fierce opposition from Harbor Lights, a neighboring manufactured-home community.
The dock would have run parallel to the Harbor Lights sea wall, reducing access to boat slips along the sea wall and blocking views of the waterway, residents said.
While the county should encourage public dock space and waterfront access, it shouldn't come at injury to neighboring property owners, said commissioner Nora Patterson.
"I just can't get over achieving that good by building a dock parallel to homes," Patterson said, before acknowledging her regret that the decision might force the restaurant to close. "It's really with sadness that I can't support the dock because of the size."
Commissioner Jon Thaxton said the plans would do little to correct the shortage.
"You can't correct a deficit that's been created over a 5- to 10-year period all in one site," Thaxton said.
Expecting strong opposition, Konecnik had distributed petitions to restaurant and bar patrons that explained his plan. He presented nearly 8,000 signed petitions, filling three file boxes, in support of his plans.
In a sign of how passionate the debate had become, the hearing ran nearly four hours and included testimony from more than 60 members of the audience, including neighbors along the waterway and restaurant patrons.
"We've got an opportunity here for private enterprise to provide public water access. It's a win-win situation," said one speaker, Patrick McCarthy. "If it goes through, it will prevent another marina from becoming a victim of condo development."
But opponents from Harbor Lights said Konecnik had refused meetings with them, ignoring their concerns and even sending bills to them for improvements made to the waterfront area they share.
"We've received a lot of what I'd call harassment or intimidations from Mr. Konecnik," said Don Augustine. "I do think we're doing the right thing in opposing the docks."
County commissioner David Mills cast the lone vote in support of Konecnik's plan.
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Marker4 dock extension to go to hearing UPDATE! County and Wharf owner at War!
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Re: Marker4 dock extension to go to hearing stay tuned
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Patrick
on Fri 13 Jan 2006 06:26 PM EST | Profile | Permanent Link
Hey, Pat. From a practical standpoint, I think a long dock there could be a problem for navigation, what with big boats sitting there waiting for the bridge to open. From a legal standpoint, I think if Konicnic owns the property and all the various regulatory agencies say it's legal for him to build it, then he ought to get to build it. I tend to come down on the side of property owners rights, even if we don't like what they are doing. Maybe I'm a closet Libertarian? - Jim
perhaps you are Jim! heres how I see it.Nowhere in Sarasota county will New marinas be permitted. the only option to expand boater's services & access to the waterfront is to expand existing marinas. My understanding is the slips that are proposed will be for the recreational boaters to access the land i.e. downtown Venice (also marker4 but that goes with out saying) At this time there is nowhere to dock your boat & walk or bike to downtown Venice. The state & feds approved a 600'+ dock only to have the bcc sitting as the "harbor board" reduced the project back to the 400' that HAS been approved. I feel (by reading the np reports) that the boating public was poorly represented at the hearing this week.We have seen some suprising things come from this board in the past year. most good. the nav. issue is minimal at best or the state & feds would not of approved this. there is a lot of NIMBYism going on despite the fact that JK is going to GIVE the submerged lands THAT HE OWNS! to the MH park! beyond belief to me. we will see. I may speak to MR. K & see how me would feel about a turnout in his favor at the public hearing by local. recreational boaters Re: Marker4 dock extension to go to hearing stay tuned
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Patrick
on Mon 23 Jan 2006 12:19 PM EST | Profile | Permanent Link
Marina space dwindling in hot spots around the country
By JOHN PAIN AP Business Writer MIAMI -- For eight years, Rob Quinlivan has lived in his version of paradise - a 40-foot power boat docked in a public marina. It's a life that's given him adventure, freedom and a way to experience the best of South Florida without the soaring prices of its red-hot real estate market. "Where else can you get living on a waterfront property, you know, some of the best climates in the world?" said the 60-year-old manufacturing engineer. But Quinlivan's slip fees have jumped $200 a month over the past two years, and he and other boaters are finding out the hard way that the real estate boom isn't limited to dry land. Public places to dock are getting harder to come by as developers buy up marinas to convert them into private slips for luxury condominiums in popular areas such as Florida and California. According to the Boat Owners Association of the United States, the pressures of development are a real concern for the nation's estimated 13,000 public marinas, 11,000 of which are "mom-and-pop" family owned operations. "These owners have put a lot of sweat equity into their facilities. They're getting up there in years and a developer comes along and offers them a big check, and it's attractive," said Scott Croft, a spokesman for the Alexandria, Va.-based association. The real estate boom in prime waterfront areas has been accompanied by a surge in boat ownership. While the 12.79 million boats registered in U.S. in 2003 was down slightly from a peak of 12.87 million in 2001, top-ranked California and third-ranked Florida saw their numbers increase by 84,660 from 2002 to 2003, the Coast Guard said. Pineda Point Marina in Melbourne on Florida's central Atlantic coast has witnessed the boom since the family owned business started about 15 years ago. The marina's 100 slips are always full, and manager Scott Jordan said developers have casually asked his father, the owner, about selling. "I'm not saying that we're going to stay here no matter what," he said. "If someone was to come around and offered the kind of money that was a ridiculously high price ..." He said rising insurance rates and property taxes that accompany the real estate boom have also made the marina less profitable. Property taxes alone jumped 28 percent last year, from $11,713 annually to more than $15,000. Florida's Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, a state agency that handles boating access, is concerned about the marina situation and is awaiting the results of a study that will gauge the exact number of facilities lost to development. "There is, at this point, little that we can do," said commission spokesman Willie Puz. "Because it's private property, we can't regulate it." Lawmakers plan to introduce a bill in the Florida Legislature this year that would encourage local governments to preserve public marinas, Florida Association of Counties spokeswoman Kriss Vallese said. Some counties are also taking steps to keep marinas open - Palm Beach County recently approved $15 million to preserve one of its marinas. Developers say the shortage of marina space is simply another part of the real estate boom. "In a state like Florida, we have people moving into the state and one of the main draws is the water. That's a diminishing percentage of land as opposed to the number of people coming in. The one thing we can't grow is beachfront," said Jim Cohen, a principal with Boca Developers. He said developers are also providing a service by modernizing some public marinas that have fallen into disrepair. His company, based in Deerfield Beach, also has set aside about 10 percent of the marina space at one of its properties for public use. But for some boaters, that isn't enough. Jim Edwards, 39, originally from Florence, Ala., lives on his 41-foot sailboat with girlfriend and travels around the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico. Since leaving land 10 years ago, he said he has seen Florida change from an affordable place for boaters. "It's a place for the wealthy who have the money to enjoy the waterfront," Edwards said. "If you don't have, you know, a big boat and a lot of money, they don't really want you." Last modified: January 22. 2006 1:46PM Re: Marker4 dock extension to go to hearing stay tuned
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Patrick
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02/08/06
Wharf owner nearly fed up After nearly four years of fighting and about $1.3 million in lost revenue and legal fees, Venice Fisherman's Wharf owner John Konecnik said Tuesday he's about had it. If Sarasota County rejects his floating dock, Konecnik will sell the entire parcel of land next to Hatchett Creek Bridge to the first buyer who offers enough money. It's unclear who that buyer could be, but one thing's for certain -- it will never be Sarasota County. There has been a persistent rumor, which county staff has denied, that Sarasota County wants to buy Fisherman's Wharf and turn it into a public marina and park. Konecnik said he wouldn't sell it to the county even if it made an offer, especially after all his legal wrangling and hold-ups gaining county commissioner approval. "Government has screwed this up from the start," Konecnik said. "I'll sell it to a developer with the money to fight it, first. ... "It's been fun, but the fun's about run out. I've got some other things I want to do before kicking the bucket." 'No minds have changed' The Wharf owner has been attempting to persuade the county to grant him the 686 feet he originally asked for, instead of the 400 feet commissioners approved in June 2004. In the meantime, what he had approval for isn't finished and Sarasota County recently denied a fourth extension to Konecnik's construction permits. That puts Konecnik's controversial floating dock project back at square one. Howard Berna, Sarasota County environmental supervisor of resource protection, said Fisherman's Wharf must cease all dock work, reapply for a permit and start all over. Konecnik is attempting to reverse the extension denial, but as of Tuesday, no information has been submitted, said County Administrator Jim Ley. Ley also said Sarasota County has no interest in purchasing Fisherman's Wharf. "A representative for Mr. Konecnik has indicated a desire to submit additional information in support of extension of the permit," Ley said. "He has not done so as yet, and therefore no minds have been changed. Another of his representatives has expressed his desire to extend the dock. This would in effect be starting over and a 'new' permit." 'A shame' Starting over has the potential to get what Konecnik wants -- 686 feet of dock -- or nothing at all -- no dock approval of any kind. Konecnik has been granted approval for the entire dock by all other regulatory agencies. Any decision that brings in less than the 686 feet Konecnik wants will lead him to sell to a big-name developer. Konecnik has always envisioned wide waterfront walkways; a 686-foot floating dock with almost half of it reserved for transient boaters; a restaurant; and various small stores. The wharf owner said this would guarantee public access to the water in a time when condominium projects are buying up all waterfront areas. And to pay for this $60 million redevelopment project, Konecnik wants a private developer to build a nine-story, 58-unit condominium similar in height and size to the Waterfront on Venice Island towers just on the other side of Hatchett Creek Bridge. Take away the docks, he says, and there's no reason to keep fighting. He'll finally sell out to the highest bidder and let the entire patch of land go private. Konecnik plans on passing out flyers to his neighbors that detail his version of the project's history. At the end of the three pages, he asks people to choose between a marina project or condominiums and then provides county commissioner e-mail addresses. "This is it," Konecnik said. "If we don't get the majority of docks we agreed with (Gov. Jeb) Bush and the (state) cabinet, we're done. ... We've been trying to save this for the public since 1998. It'd be a shame to leave it." You can e-mail J.J. Andrews at: jandrews@venicegondolier.com. Re: Marker4 dock extension to go to hearing UPDATE!
05/14/06
Council dodges dock issue again One after another, nearly a dozen Harbor Lights stepped up to the microphone Tuesday and asked Venice City Council for its opinion on the proposed dock at Venice Fisherman's Wharf. And again and again, council members said it wasn't their any of their business. The four-year battle over the floating dock in next to Hatchett Creek and the Intracoastal Waterway continues. Sarasota County commissioners will reconsider the dock proposal May 23. Wharf owner John Konecnik's building permits expired earlier this year following four extensions. City council was highly criticized two years ago when it failed to issue any opinion on the wharf's floating dock. Despite being within city limits, Sarasota County has jurisdiction on all dock approvals. Harbor Lights residents who oppose the dock -- be it the previously approved 415 feet or the proposed 686 feet full-length version -- wanted council members to take a stand, but much like two years ago, they said it wasn't their place. "It seems to me like we're getting into something outside of our jurisdiction. ... We don't have a dog in the fight," council member Bill Willson said Tuesday. No comment A year ago council members assured residents they would speak up, and county officials said they welcomed the city's opinion. But as of Tuesday's council meeting, City Manager Marty Black said county staff had not completed its report and there was not enough information for council members to form an opinion. When questioned why council cannot at least say if it likes the "idea" of a dock at Venice Fisherman's Wharf, the city manager said it already has. "Our presumption is, the (previously approved) 415-foot dock meets county standards and that's why it was approved," Black said. "At this time, nothing indicates otherwise. ... No council person, in either meetings or my personal conversations with them, has suggested opposition." Adding on that extra 271 feet of dock Konecnik wants is another issue, however, Black said. Without a complete report from county staff, it is inappropriate for city council to issue an opinion on a county decision. "It sounds like a cop-out, I know, but we're obligated to give this a fair hearing," Black said. Continuance? County commissioner Shannon Staub was sorry to hear that no opinion was issued by city council. She understood its position of not wanting to render opinions without a full analysis of the facts. Staub verified late Friday that a complete packet was hand-delivered to Venice City Hall, but it could be too late, since council's next meeting is the same day as the dock hearing with county commissioners -- May 23. One idea Staub had was for the city to send a representative and request a continuance so council members could review the final county report. "The thing is, you want input from as many people as you can," Staub said. "That's the only option I can think of, and it seems to make sense to me." The wharf owner actually has two applications going to commissioners, one for the original 415-foot floating dock and a second one for the 686-foot version. Konecnik is not guaranteed reapproval of his original permit. Sarasota County only approves the dock itself, while all other construction approval rests with the city. The only pending city application is for a basic building permit that accompanies the floating dock. While there's been plenty of talk, there are no applications for the condominium project Konecnik has said he needs to pay for expanding public access to the dock. You can e-mail J.J. Andrews at: jandrews@venicegondolier.com. By J.J. Andrews Assistant Editor |
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